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142 X 12 Thru Axle - Worth Waiting For?

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  • Started 1 year ago by mootini
  • Latest reply from Doc Moots

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  1. mootini
    Member

    So I have my mind wrapped around a Mooto X RSL but saw the video clip from the booth at the NAHBS and the coming change to a 142 x 12 rear axle configuration next fall/winter. Two questions - is this going to be an option on the RSL or stock configuration, and second, is it really worth waiting for? Thanks in advance!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. JonC
    Administrator

    mootini,
    No word on if this will be stock or an option. We wanted to do it as a show piece of possibilities and let the viewers know we are thinking...it is a good way off.

    However, it will be stock in the MX Divide and to me personally has much more impact on a dual suspension bike vs. a hard tail. It really ties the rear end of the bike together when you have pivots and such.

    I hope that helps in your wait/don't wait question.

    I can also tell you I've recently built up a MX RSL and love the ride. Responsive, light....bullet proof. I went with a tapered steerer tube for and the 15mmQR fork in the front....simply amazing.

    Thanks,

    Jon@Moots

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. Doc Moots
    Member

    Mootini,

    I thought about this exact issue before I ordered my 2012 MX RSL. I didn't get it because it was not an option, and many mfg bike reps told me it wouldn't matter on a hardtail. That said, I did get the new Rock Soc XX World Cup tapered fork with the 15mm axel. Jon's right in that parts that move will benefit more from the 142 axel. It really matters in my fork. Will 142 stiffen the frame, likely a little, is it worth waiting for, heck no! Let me explain.

    One of my riding buddies best describe the bike like this. "The Moots is a mile in front of me and my lungs are a mile behind me. The thing is flat out fast!" Many of the same guys I ride with now have new carbon 29er's of different strips, and they use my RSL as the reference.

    Lastly, if you get one don't skimp on the saddle post, stem or bars. I run a Moots post, stem and bars and they really affect the ride for the better. My 18" frame only weights 20.5 pounds with pedals! 3-4 pounds lighter than my buddies carbon frames.

    There are a lot of bikes in the market place to choose from, most are made of carbon and glue. A MOOTS is made of Ti and solo. Each day you wait is one less you don't get to spend riding a Moots!

    Good luck, and keep the rubber side down.

    Doc Moots.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. sbsbiker
    Member

    Another thing to consider about waiting, Moots is always thinking of how to make a better bike, the RSL line is proof of this. No matter when you get your Moots, they are already working on a better one. It may be next season or the one after, but like your cell, or PC, your new Moots is going to be trumped by the next generation, so you might as well not wait. The bike industry is notorious for change, waiting for them to decide on any given technology is crazy. Get the best Moots you can afford, and enjoy the ride. Let others sit on the couch waiting for the next big thing to buy while you are out riding.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. Hawkfan
    Member

    Doc Moots,
    That's an impressive weight. I am getting ready to order my MXRSL, and was curious about your build. Can you give me the details of your bike? I will be ordering the 18" as well, but I am undecided on the components and the rest of the build. I am also considering sliders for the SS option.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. Mojo Man
    Member

    Use the DT Swiss 10mm thru axel in the rear, plenty stiff for a hard tail and I'm sure most could not tell the difference between the 10mm or 12mm, hell, even the 9mm quick change for that matter. I’m sure wheel stiffness will be the constraint.

    Mojo

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. mootini
    Member

    Thanks for settling my mind all, great "enabling" comments, wish my wife had wrote them... I agree that Moots will always evolve, but eleven years into ownership and I still love getting on my "old" Moots. I should know better than thinking I'd have to wait for the next best thing to come out from Moots! And yes, Moots stem, bar and seatpost most certainly, and thinking SRAM X0 2 x 10 with Enve wheels and Fox fork with 15mm thru axle. Similar to what I did on my Gristle and love every bit of it. Cheers!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Doc Moots
    Member

    Hawkfan,

    My 18" Moots 2012 has a SRAM XX groupo, a 2012 Rock Shox SID WC XX fork, Chris King Headset, Moots RSL 100 mm stem and 25" 8 degree Moots bars, Moots Layback cinch post, Chris King hubs laced to Stan Crest rims. Though, I have a second pair of King hubs laced to some carbon rims that weight a little more which I like much better. They are twice as stiff. The bike has King water cages, a Gobi saddle and Look Quartz carbon Ti pedals with ESI grips. To get to 20.5 lbs, I have to have the Furious Fred tires run tubeless, only 360 gr each.

    I built the bike to be light but not at the cost of performance. I could probably get the bike to 20 if I changed out the post, stem and bars for carbon, but it would compromise the ride quality. These Moots parts are as important to the ride feel as the frame.

    Everyone always talks about how great the welds on a Moots are, and they're deserving of all the acolades. But the real magic of a Moots is the bikes ability to disappear under you as you ride.

    The Journey is The Reward, Ride a MOOTS!

    Doc Moots.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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