Sorry if this has been hashed out over a previous thread, but I am trying to decide between a MootoX or MootoX YBB. I used to race an Ibis Silk Ti back in the day and loved that bike. I owned an Ellsworth Evolve a few years back when I decided to give the 29 world a try. The Ellsworth descended well, but it felt like a sluggish 3-toed tree sloth when climbing. I am in love with the 26" YBB, but would like to make a move to the 29er. I have never owned a hardtail in the past. I rode a Scott hardtail one time and it felt like riding a rigid jackhammer. As far as riding terrain, I prefer to ride the singletrack in Steamboat. I currently own a PX SS, and my wife rides a PX SS and Vamoots CR. We love Moots! So, any foresight or assistance would be greatly appreciated...
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Satellite
MemberHawkfan,
Easy YBB, the YBB was made for single track in Steamboat. If you need the hardtail you can lock out the YBB (no one ever does) but if you buy the hardtail you can't unlock the suspension. IMO the softtail didn't have place in the market once the smart suspension designs appeared on the market; then the 29ers became popular and wham the Soft-Tail found its place in the market once again. The ultimate cross country machine IMO is the Mooto-X YBB just the right balance of simplicity, stiffness, suspension in the shock/tires, rolling ability and weight.
Side note:
NOT to take away from Moots; the Silk Ti is a great bike I own two of them (Ibis years) because I am crazy and thought I needed a spare (never needed to use it). I also own 3 VaMoots; SL, S&S Coupled, and a YBB. I mostly ride the Coupled VaMoots more because of opportunity I take it when I travel and when I travel I don't have family commitments. I have been thinking of getting one of the Silk Ti's Retro Coupled; the best of both worlds would be a Coupled SilkTi 29er then I could run two sets of wheels mountain and road but for me right now that is cost prohibitive. Plus bang for the buck the Mooto-X is a better deal. Moots is just the right size of company, they are NOT too small they can produce quantity/value and they are NOT to big where they are all profit driven and cut quality corners for the almighty corporate dollar.Sorry for the distraction above get the YBB and if you don’t like it I will buy it for ½ of your purchase price.
Satellite
Posted 1 year ago # -
woody
MemberI love my MXYBB.
Here is another thread kind of related to your question.
http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=3249#post-6085Enjoy,
WoodyPosted 1 year ago # -
Mojo Man
MemberAnother thing to consider is a suspension seat post. I used one all last year for my Ti SS HT and would never ride with out it. It is the XCR carbon model. It's just enough compliance when seated and the weight penaly isn't that bad, at 426 gms. A small price to pay for alot of cush for the tush. My build still came in at 22 lbs and if i calculated my new YBB build weight correctly, I'm still around there, a softtail with extra cush while seated and the snappyness of a HT, WOW, can't wait.
Mojo
Posted 1 year ago # -
Satellite
MemberMojo Man,
I prefer the suspension be on the rear wheel vs the seatpost. Yes the seatpost provides cushion for the tushy but the rear wheel travel will allow the rear tire to be glued to the ground when bumps are encountered. Especially important when riding in Fruita and Moab area where a lot of climbing is over bumpy terrain, the YBB climbs like a goat.
Satellite
Posted 1 year ago # -
Thanks for the great replies! I was leaning towards the YBB, and I believe you guys are confirming my thoughts. My experiences with the Ellsworth 29er were horrifying, but I am not trying to knock Ellsworth as my wife had a Truth and it worked well. The singletrack in Steamboat is second to none. I have ridden in Moab, Denver/Boulder/Fort Collins area, Seattle and nothing compares. Any opinions on the difference in climbing on the steep technical grades between the two? The geometries seem similar on the 2012's. The RSL would be nice as well. The confusion and brain racking decisions are killing me!
Satellite,
I regretfully sold my Silk Ti a few years ago. I bought mine back in 2002 from Sore Saddle.Woody,
Thanks for the link. good info!Posted 1 year ago #
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