Gotta love the fact that he won the famous Greek Race the Gyro. Believe they finish in Athens on that one. LOL
Nice vintage frame.
I disagree with outing of vintage auctions from e-bay. Advertising auctions from e-bay makes me wonder if this thread is looking to draw more bidders to a forum member's auction. Not to mention driving up prices for some of us that have been watching an auction only to have more attention drawn to it from a post on a forum. This also appliesto the snowbike or the recent rsl's. I think forum members should wait till the auction closes before providing free ads for e-bayers.
Thanks for your 2 cents sbsbiker. Maybe you should lobby to become a mediator.
lol... play nice boys.
lol again, that reply coming from domestique? on his third name beacuse he kept getting booted?
SBS, I have mixed feelings about the ebay/craigslist threads on forums. My best deals have been with bikes that slide under the radar, and I then report back to the forums with the new wonders (my first Moots snow bike, Tyler's personal IF track frame with a one-off disc fork, Sacha's personal Vanilla disc/ss cyclocross frameset). That being said, some of my more expensive but beloved frames have been those that I discovered only through a forum.
I think that we all search "moots" 5x or more per day on ebay and that reporting a moots-based auction to this forum is somewhat redundant and probably not driving up interest or pricing. Yes, we all have seen them. If there is something interesting to discuss, then by all means post away. But if it is simply, "did you see that RSL on ebay?" it seems pointless.
SBS, do you recall some of the Mootant designs? They were worth linking to for discussion for sure.
xjahx is right—who here doesn't search for "Moots" (among other companies) on ebay on a regular basis? Unless someone puts a Snoots up with a BIN price of $1,500, chances are a good number of us will see it long before the auction ends.
Remember this thread:
In the ebay listing, "Pollock" is spelled correctly, but "Giro" and "Hampsten" are not; in the above thread, "Giro" is spelled correctly, but "Pollock" and "Hampsten" are not. At least "Moots" is spelled correctly in both! ;-)
I agree with SBS. If you're selling a RSL on Ebay, there is something wrong. It's 'new' bike/frame and it's certainly not your 1st bike. Ebay/Craigslist are garage sales......no one would sell an RSL at a garage sale. Parts, old stuff, old frames...sure, not an RSL. If you do, fine, have at it - but I think anyone with this type of pedigree of bike has contacts that have contacts - that you'll sell a bike. I've sold dozens of frames/bikes - never on ebay or Craigslist. I don't think it would even be a consideration because I want what it's worth and to be honest, I want to know who's riding it and that he/she knows what it is and what they are getting.
Since I started this thread, I feel I should chime in with why I posted this topic in the first place. The reason is simply to share with everybody here something which I think we would all enjoy and get something positive from. It's nothing to do with promoting sales or anything low brow like that, it's simply to enjoy what we find wherever it happens to pop up and since eBay is worldwide, it's a pretty good spot for finding stuff.
Having said that, I understand sbs's point of view and I respect that, but as jah said, I think it's safe to assume that pretty much anybody who's into our beloved Moots (and let's be honest... it's a small group, there's not that many of us in the overall picture) is checking out eBay on a fairly consistent basis to see what's new (although I think jah is a bit obsessive with his 5 times a day... wink). I know for me it's a bit of discovery, half the stuff I see on eBay I never even knew existed, custom Hampsten Moots with dual dropouts?... didn't have a clue. And that's why I post stuff like this... to share, nothing more. It's all good.
I will say this, that Hampsten bike has got to be the UGLIEST bike I've 'ever' seen. Looks like somebody ate a whole bag of skittles and then yakked all over it!
I see nothing wrong with sharing Moots related info on a Moots forum and a Moots posted for sale on EBay or anywhere else for that matter seems entirely relevant and an appropriate discussion point.
Keep sharing info guys and girls - because that's what forums are all about...
Sorry to dissent, I've seen this type of post ruin other auctions over on other forums to drive up prices for sellers and steer attention to a forum user's sale. I would have been interested in this item if I had space for another vintage moot's but my house and garage are full of them. But I'm not the moderator and don't want to mediate anything so I'll keep quiet.
Maybe if dom's origional post had some commentary about the auction besides just a link to the sale I would not have such a negitive feel from this thread, but dom posted nothing but a ad for an auction, no comments,etc. Made me wonder if dom lived in centennial and was selling the item. No way to know when there isn't anything but a link to an auction.
Even ugly it's still a cool frame and if the past owner is varified, somewhat collectable.
On the snow bike I was just trying to help TF out in case he didn't see it. I know he was looking for one a while ago and they don't pop up everyday. If I could have PM'd him I would have.
When you mean "ruin an auction" I assume you mean stopping someone (ie you) from potentially getting a bargain and stopping a seller from getting a fair and reasonable price based on the market? Sounds like sour grapes to me....
I think as long as the poster isn't the seller its fabulous. After all I thought this forum was to talk and share all things Moots. I'd find it hard to believe that nobody on this forum was given a heads up on some deal somewhere in life.
I guess if we followed the Slick Willy Don't ask don't tell theory that would be OK. That would also mean that I wouldn't expect to see any info about great rides because after all you're giving it away and there will be ton's of MOOTER"s screwing it up by putting too much traffic on the trail. Or that we couldn't comment on how great one component is over the another as that will surely eat up all the supply of that component and drive the product price up.
Net net I didn't see anything malicious about the post and believe some folks are overreacting
nope, no affiliation with the auction, if I was in 'any' way I would've said so up front.
funny how something meant to be shared and enjoyed can elicit such varied responses.
just enjoy it for what it is... a piece of Moots history. so stop reading this and get outside and RIDE!
I knew that D Funny how you got scolded for sharing something
scolded? lol... I don't think so.
That is so cool, congrats.
That's pretty cool a forum member bought Andy's Moots. Did you know it was on eBay before Domestique tipped off the forum?
sbsbiker and the others, you are all complete maniacs if you don't think a registered member on the moots forum does not peruse the cozy confines of ebay.com.
the real topic of debate should have been the legitimacy of the andy h. claim.
I guess I can kiss my career as a bike appraiser goodbye. I wouldn't have paid $5 for that piece of junk. I don't care who owned it.
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