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Started 1 year ago by kalamath
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kalamath
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sliders, or eccentric with problem solvers ebb?

linky: http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/02/23/problem-solvers-bb30-eccentric-bottom-bracket-adapter/

Was going to go sliders and no cable stops, but this ebb is interesting. I don't have a CX bike, and can't really splurge on two RSLs, so this option would allow me to throw on a rigid fork, narrower bars, gears, and hit up the CX season. Suppose I can do that with sliders also...ideas?

edit: Umm, didn't really think about it before but, magic gear? Anyone check it out yet?

Nino
2010 Ibis Mojo SL
2005 Moots Compact

Posted 1 year ago #
johnny5
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I've got the sliders on mine and absolutely love them. I have been running them on my Rigormootis for 3 years now and haven't had any issues and on my RSL since April.

I saw the EBB option and it's pretty cool, I'm just not a fan of the EBB due to less throw than the sliders (meaning I get more gearing options without a half-link or swapping chains) and it doesn't mess up my saddle position (important to me as an ss'er). I've had friends with bikes we've just not been able to run certain chainring/cog combinations with EBB's before, not something I've had an issue with with sliders.

Though sliders to alter the chainstay length, which can be good or bad depending on your purpose. Differences in chainstay length is much more noticeable on the 29'er than the 26'er too. Just noting that as each ss tension method comes with their pros and cons.

Cheaper version is to go the EBB route. Either way it's a sweet bike and you can't go wrong.

Posted 1 year ago #
sbsbiker
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I've got sliders on my Gristle and have had no issues with them. I've always run gears on them but got them to have the SS option. Jonc can speak better to this but I don't know if a EBB is an option that Moots offers. Jon's racing the SSSR this weekend so his response may be delayed.

I know for me the sliders have been worry free and having the option of gears or SS is great.

Plus, how would an ebb effect the BB30's stiffness and effectiveness?

Posted 1 year ago #
kalamath
Member

The EBB fits into the BB and uses a 24mm axle crank. I guess technically it may not be as stiff, but the benefit of stiffness for the larger PF30 is in the frame itself, not the crank. Can any of us flex a 24mm axle? I don't think so. Notable frame builders agree from what I've been reading.

What IS cool about the PF30 is having these options. Can go full on 30mm BB30 crank, run adaptors for a 24mm crank, or run a EBB with 24mm cranks. Again, the reason I'm considering this is so I have the option to turn my SS into a geared bike with CX tires to use as a gravel crusher or CX bike. I'm guessing I'll be SS 95% of the time.

Best of both worlds would be if the MXRSL fit a magic gear close to 32x20!

Posted 1 year ago #
kalamath
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Really looking for JonC and other MXRSL owners/riders to chime in....dying to order this frame up. I'm set on no cable stops...if I want to gear it for a special occasion I can ue full length housing.

Just need to decide on sliders vs. regular dropouts & EBB (or magic gear). I have a feeling it'll be sliders, but I'll feel better with some more discussion.

Posted 1 year ago #
JonC
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All,
Good discussions for sure. Let me start by saying... I"m no single speed expert. I have spent some time on a MX YBB w/sliders and like the set up. It goes back my days on a bmx bike.....easy to use, straight forward. Last year I used a tensioner for one of my cross bikes and dabbled in one single speed race. It worked nicely but in the circles of "real" single speeders it's not PRO. Locally here in Steamboat we've seen some of the guys at Orange Peel use the bb30 & pf30 EBB that is linked above. I like this set up....clean, solid....it all depends what you like. The "magic" gear is too much of a gamble for me personally...could be suspect and find me working on a single way too much...simple set up is a big draw when going one gear....IMHO.

Also to note...we did EBB's for a small period of time and have now stopped offering them as an option....we didn't like how they worked with our Ybb rear ends and went to the sliders.

My .2

Jon@Moots

Posted 1 year ago #
Mootzilla
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I have a SS Cx bike, Moots made the track style dropouts and canti brakes for me its name is Mootzilla. It is my favorite bike of the 20 or so i own (4 Moots) No need for that slider crap or EBB just get a track Dropout and ride the crap out of it. Motozilla II is going to be S & S coupled. No need for the RSL and 30 BB. Just get a regular old Moots bike and I promise it will be plenty good for as long as you live. Mine has been to two SSCXWC so far and San Francisco is only a few months away. Hey I am almost 60 years old and still think SS Cx is the only way to go, might as well go in style with Mr. Moots. You only live once.

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