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Moots Forum » Topic: PX Questions http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177 Rider's community and more. en-US Sun, 19 May 2013 09:18:13 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://moots.com/bbpress/search.php xjahx on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177&page=2#post-1212 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:48:41 +0000 xjahx 1212@http://moots.com/bbpress/ This was my main race bike: <a href="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5423250738_64eb1e1704_z.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5051/5423250738_64eb1e1704_z.jpg</a> This was my pit bike: <a href="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5399175918_d9f1c93c19_z.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5253/5399175918_d9f1c93c19_z.jpg</a> They differ in age by 1 year and have the reverse panel schemes. Identical geometry. Identical components. Luckily, my wife is the same height as I, so she used the same race and pit bikes. You see how I justify the two... kaiser on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177&page=2#post-1211 Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:03:30 +0000 kaiser 1211@http://moots.com/bbpress/ I have a Ferrari Enzo. What is an Enzo? Pit bike - lots of cross events are muddy, mucky messes. A pit bike is a second bike in pit (like a pit stop in a Nascar race - get it?). If/when your bike becomes a muddy, mucky mess, or you have a mechanical, you grab your pit bike or a friend passes you your pit bike while grabbing your muddy, mucky mess of a bike and frantically cleans it in order to pass it back on the next lap, or following lap, or whenever you may call for it. Many people have virtually identical 'pit bikes' (read: two $7,000 Moots to throw in the mud) so position, feel of bike(s) are identical. Although many a person's pit bike is 'last years' model or a less expensive bike ....it's 'pit bike'. Before you ask: a 'mechanical' is a flat, broken derailleur, busted seat post, a crooked stem/bar because of a crash, etc., etc. So, if you DNF'd because of a 'mechanical', it means you did one of the above (or something similar) in that you could finish an event. Before you ask: DNF - 'did not finish' You can also not mechanical but be DFL. Before you ask: DFL - Dead Fuc%^& Last. I'm not being mean, I'm going cycling 101. Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177&page=2#post-1210 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:46:36 +0000 Domestique 1210@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Tires were ordered today, FMB SSC 32, and brakes (TRP CR-950), and pedals (XTR-M980). Edge Cross fork is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. Also ordered another pair of D2 shoes (Mtn Ascent). Now I am waiting on my PX... :-) xjahx on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177&page=2#post-1209 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 21:26:08 +0000 xjahx 1209@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Did my fishing lesson fail? Come on, Dom, you can do it: 1. <a href="http://www.google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com</a> 2. "what is a cyclocross pit bike?" 3. Result #1: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclo-cross" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclo-cross</a> 4. Read: A cyclo-cross rider is allowed to change bicycles and receive mechanical assistance during a race. While the rider is on the course gumming up one bicycle with mud, his or her pit crew can work quickly to clean, repair and oil the spares. Having a mechanic in the "pits" is more common for professional cyclo-cross racers. The average cyclo-cross racer might have a family member or friend holding their spare bike. Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177&page=2#post-1207 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:32:33 +0000 Domestique 1207@http://moots.com/bbpress/ what's a 'pit' bike'? I know... I'm a noob. EastCoastRoadie on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177&page=2#post-1206 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:51:08 +0000 EastCoastRoadie 1206@http://moots.com/bbpress/ D. I have the TRP Euro's on both my PXs. My pit bike gets all of the road work, and these brakes are more than adequate for roads around here. Plus the magnesium version just looks cool on a Moots (although completely frivolous). Just don't ever try to stop on a dime, and you will be fine. These brakes are also great for the cx racing scene in PA, NJ, and DE. The only trouble I have ever had is in a race on a snowy course, and quite frankly I don't think any brake other than a disc brake would have made a difference. Besides, in a cx race brakes just slow you down as Scott always says... Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1194 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:33:48 +0000 Domestique 1194@http://moots.com/bbpress/ I dunno... I think the Pauls look ok, certainly not as ugly as the CX9 (sorry again FM, couldn't help it...) :-) Anonymous on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1193 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 00:05:43 +0000 Anonymous 1193@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Domestique Perhaps you should split the difference and go with TRP's CR950's. Less mud shedding than EuroX, but your not racing. Nicer looking than CX9's and they stop pretty darn good in road/gravel ride type conditions. They are a little more "up to date" looking then Mr. Paul's offering, although thats all personal taste I expect. drv xjahx on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1190 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:29:47 +0000 xjahx 1190@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Paul makes some of the nicest components out there. They are a machine shop that makes practical bits, just like Phil Wood and White Industries. You cannot go wrong with Paul except for the fact that the Neo Retros are almost too strong. A lot of people run the Touring model in the rear, because they have less protruding arms when mounting/dismounting your cross bike. Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1189 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 20:22:15 +0000 Domestique 1189@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Another PX question... I'm still on the fence on which brakes to get. Jon recommends TRP EuroX but he's using them for cross racing (I don't race), and FM says he likes his TRP CX9 but they're just plain fugly (sorry FM). I know I shouldn't be concerned with aesthetics but what can I say... I'm vain. There's a company out in CA named 'Paul' that makes some nice cantis, anybody ever use them, opinions? Thx, D. xjahx on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1168 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:06:14 +0000 xjahx 1168@http://moots.com/bbpress/ I love the chain hanger. A nice touch from the days of old. Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1167 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:43:55 +0000 Domestique 1167@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Hey Woody, That's one of the reasons I went with the PX. It'll go pretty much anywhere so I only need the one bike. I'm gonna miss the Compact for sure, she's been a great ride but I only want to keep one bike and the PX is it. Besides, I don't think I could afford an RSL even if I wanted one, the regular PX will do just fine, thank you very much! :-) One more thing... I'm not getting the one Jon was talking about earlier. It was the right size (55) but I wanted an extended headtube and a chain hanger so they're gonna make a new one for me. Scott says approx. 8 weeks. D. Now I am waiting for my PX... Satellite on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1164 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 21:51:52 +0000 Satellite 1164@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Woody, LOL, I have been tempted, however I don't have any time to ride all the bikes I have now. I did just get about 100 miles commuting via bike on a business trip to California. That S&S Coupled VaMoots was the best investment I have made in a long time. I have to go 1200 miles to get a ride in Sickening. Satellite woody on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1162 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:59:08 +0000 woody 1162@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Hey Sat, Now you need to order up your RSL and see if the mothership can get to you in 12 hours... Woody Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1161 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 18:01:32 +0000 Domestique 1161@http://moots.com/bbpress/ I hear ya Sat, Moots is the best in the biz. Another reason to get a Moots is my local dealer, Scott has been 'awesome'. Satellite on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1160 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:50:17 +0000 Satellite 1160@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Domestique, Moots had one waiting just for you; they didn't want you to change your mind. Post some photo's when she is built up. When I bought my 2003 Mootaineer, Moots stayed open on Christmas Eve and it was a perfect powder day, to deliver my frame, how's that for customer service. When I bought my 2004 VaMoots SL I was told 6 to 8 weeks, the frame was on my door step the next day even better customer service. When I bought my 2008 VaMoots it was a complete bike in two boxes on my door step the next day, just had to put the wheels on, every time the customer service is better. That's why I originally bought a Moots due to another companies poor customer service, and I have and will remain brand loyal to Moots because they stand behind their products and business model. Satellite Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1156 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 16:23:54 +0000 Domestique 1156@http://moots.com/bbpress/ no way... today, really? JonC on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1155 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 15:37:18 +0000 JonC 1155@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Dom, Psychlo X on the way! I believe it's leaving today. Send pics when the build is complete....Campy 11 on a cross bike....drool. Thanks for the support! Jon@Moots xjahx on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1148 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 02:01:58 +0000 xjahx 1148@http://moots.com/bbpress/ D, you will not regret the purchase. I currently have two Psychlo-X. The one (2001, YBB, 1 inch headtube, matching steel IF fork) qualifies as my most beloved bike, which out of a constantly evolving stable is saying a lot. Full Mootion on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1146 Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:08:16 +0000 Full Mootion 1146@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Running the TRP CX9's on schwalbe marathon supreme 32's and no problem. Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1145 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:08:20 +0000 Domestique 1145@http://moots.com/bbpress/ The deed is done... PX has been ordered. Hey Jon, is it done yet? :-) JonC on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1143 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 19:11:13 +0000 JonC 1143@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Dom, FMB 34....mmmmm nice tire. The 34 will fit with the mini v. Thanks, Jon@Moots Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1142 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 17:53:05 +0000 Domestique 1142@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Hey Jon, Yeah, but you're one of those hard-core cross racer types. I've read about you (very impressive I might add...). Since I have no plans on racing anytime soon and really only see myself using the PX for 'casual' combined road & trail riding, I think the TRP CX 9 mini v-brakes might be the better choice for me than their cantilevers. I'd feel more comfortable knowing that I can stop 'NOW" if need be. Going to see Scott today @ Evolution to place the order for the PX. Oh yeah! One more thing, maybe a dumb question but here goes... will TRP's v-brakes work with a large cross tire? I plan on going with FMB, probably a 34mm if they'll fit. Thx, D. JonC on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1139 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:38:10 +0000 JonC 1139@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Dom, Tbill is correct....cantis are for "scubbing" speed not hard core-tire-lock-up stuff. The mini v's or the 950 will produce more power for sure. Me personally I've always gone the route of cantis...we don't get much mud in Colorado cross races, but when we do it's the clay stuff....clearance makes a difference at that point. My .2 Jon@Moots tbill on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1137 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 13:39:27 +0000 tbill 1137@http://moots.com/bbpress/ I think for me the biggest issue is braking—canti's are great for mud clearance and are fine up to a point, but on fast descents etc. leave something to be desired imo. A P-X with discs would be an interesting option, especially if a lot of off-road riding is in the cards. Personally, I lean more towards a beefed up Mootour as my preferences evolve. Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1135 Mon, 14 Feb 2011 12:35:58 +0000 Domestique 1135@http://moots.com/bbpress/ More PX questions (sorry...) I'm just about ready to order the brakes for my PX, and Jon recommends going with TRP's EuroX cantilever brakes, but they also make the CX9 v-brake which Full Mootion says he's using with his sti setup and loves them. Would I be better off with the cantis or v-brakes with my Campy Record 11 levers? If it helps, I don't have any plans to go racing, just casual road/trail riding and commuting. Thx, D. Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1128 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:48:01 +0000 Domestique 1128@http://moots.com/bbpress/ Subjective question... How's the PX for use on the road? I realize it's a cross bike and the frame's geometry is not geared towards road work like a dedicated road bike, but is it still good enough for regular road riding? I guess tires will play a major role in that. Thx, D. Domestique on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1127 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:30:54 +0000 Domestique 1127@http://moots.com/bbpress/ tbill, that makes sense with the fork being longer, thx. ECR, you are sooo right about the 'pave' around here, our roads are chewed up with all the snow we've been having, another reason to go with a PX. Question, what do you guys recommend for a tubular tire I can use (within reason) on both road and bike trails? I'm thinking 34mm FMB (I'm a little bit of a tire snob) but not sure which one, any advice? Thx again, D. EastCoastRoadie on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1126 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:06:00 +0000 EastCoastRoadie 1126@http://moots.com/bbpress/ D. Scott will get it set up perfectly! The canal and the park are just the beginning of the places you should take it. With all the gravel roads and "pave" we have around here, it is like a playground for a PX. tbill on "PX Questions" http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=177#post-1125 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:49:29 +0000 tbill 1125@http://moots.com/bbpress/ You can't go wrong with a Psychlo-X. Another reason why the headtube is shorter is that the fork is much longer to accommodate larger tires (this affects standover, too).