http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=139 Rider's community and more. en-US Tue, 21 May 2013 05:11:11 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://moots.com/bbpress/search.php http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=139#post-842 Sun, 23 Jan 2011 01:22:44 +0000 Mikej 842@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Jon C, thanks for the input. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=139#post-828 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:53:26 +0000 JonC 828@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Mikej &amp; tbill,</p> <p>Thanks for the questions and input. I'll do my best to shed light on the matter.</p> <p>When we first introduced the Vamoots RSL, we had in mind the matching fork going with each frame as a package. Most really like the look of the painted fork, some did not. We can understand personal wants in aesthetics. So, some folks wanted to put an Edge fork on the frame with the 367mm a-c. That is okay, but keep in mind; all industry component makers and frame builders operate with a window of tolerance. Head sets for example...do you use a King or Crank brothers zero stack? The difference there is 3.7mm of stack. Even fork makers have a window of tolerance with the a-c measurements. So in building our frames we keep this in mind.<br /> We build within a tolerance to best match the common component selections on the market. So, yes running an Edge/Enve fork on the RSL is fine. Running it with the shorter stack height headset, you might feel it is just a touch quick. But for the most part we see hi-end Chris King headsets going into hi-end Moots bikes.<br /> In the end, we did not tweak the build of the frame once the Alpha Q forks went away, we did that during the proto type stage of the design so we would be compliant with the most common items within a window of tolerance.</p> <p>Let me know if you have any other questions.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=139#post-826 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:11:17 +0000 tbill 826@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>My understanding is that Moots is having the new forks made for them directly from the manufacturer and not through Enve (if I am not mistaken, the same manufacturer that makes Enve's forks), and that the forks will look similar to the Alpha-Q forks (although I believe that they will use a compression plug as opposed to the glue-in insert). If that is the case, they will probably have the same axle-to-crown measurement as the Alpha-Q forks.</p> <p>If the forks have a different a-c height, I would think that Moots would change the dimensions of the tubes slightly so the the geometry is the same, but I don't think they would do that until the new forks are ready. As I said above, I'm pretty sure the new forks will have the same dimensions as the A-Q forks, so there shouldn't be any changes in the frame's dimensions. Hopefully Jon will confirm. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=139#post-821 Fri, 21 Jan 2011 20:19:59 +0000 Mikej 821@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>I know the first year Moots made the RSL Road it came with an Alpha Q with an axle to crown measurement of 371 mm. Now that they come with different fork (since Alpha Q are no longer made) such as an edge envy with a 367 mm a-c, at what point did the frame geometry change to reflect the difference in a-c? </p>