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No solid date for completion at this time....I'll post when there is a time line.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12638 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:39:06 +0000 sbsbiker 12638@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Dentifly, Jon's on the road back from a Portland,OR demo thus the slow response. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12629 Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:17 +0000 dentlfly 12629@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>jon,</p> <p>are you there . waiting for a response to my last post. thanks. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8790#post-12585 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 09:54:11 +0000 didier 12585@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>wasn't it coming out this summer at some stage? </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12565 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:44:18 +0000 dentlfly 12565@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>jon,</p> <p>my shop is in charlotte. ben the owner has spent time on phone with cory discussing this issue. build: lefty carbon fork, enve carbon wheels, sram xo 2 x 10. i weigh 220 lbs and am 5'10". this is a medium frame. i also have a 29" inseam. running continental race light tires. frame has the curved top tube. so far we have switched to a conventional fork with no difference. after bens chat with cory today we locked out the ybb to see if that makes a difference. cory said that ybb can cause this problem of flexure. was not able to test today. we also today put longer stem to get more weight forward. i am wondering if the geometry is off with this stock frame and will always be an issue for me. maybe need custom build. also would the full suspension divide be less susceptible to this front end flex? thanks for all your feedback in advance. it is a great looking bike; however i don't feel comfortable on it while riding at least 1/2 the time. i use it mainly for commuting on sidewalks, grass and light trails. i have had several neck surgeries in the last year hence the need for rear suspension. ed </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12564 Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:28:28 +0000 JonC 12564@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>dentifly,<br /> In the current 29er models we have gone to 44mm head tubes, and larger tubing both in the top tube/down tube and also have the added stiffness by running a 30.9 post in the RSL models, which when combined really tighten up the bike. The 26'' wheel bikes have not gone through those changes as of yet.</p> <p>From what you describe above I would say it's a combination of very light parts(wheels)....what else is it built with?..., rider weight and tubing size that are making you feel what you are feeling. How tall are you?</p> <p>What shop did you order it through?</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12529 Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:09:36 +0000 bowtiguy 12529@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>wow! I hope this is an isolated case. I've got a new 19" Mooto X YBB on the way, should be here next week. I weigth a tad less at 185. For what its worth, I demo'd a 19" YBB during a local front range demo day and did not notice any flex coming off my 19" MXZ. </p> <p>However, I did notice that the steering was a little quicker or snappy. Once I adjusted, it was no big deal. 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