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		<title>Moots Forum &#187; Tag: ECCO Biom - Recent Posts</title>
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			<title>bowtiguy on "Mooto XZ"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bowtiguy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;mxz frame has found a new home and most the spares have made it onto my gates 29er SS. just wanted to update.
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			<title>bowtiguy on "Mooto XZ"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bowtiguy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Just a tad too late on that one. I knew if I waited I'd find one used eventually, but I couldn't wait. I got delivery of the frame on thursday From Mikki and Lee at dreamride bikes. Like a kid in a candy store I  finished the  2012 XYBB build by the next morning. After snapping some pics, I went and got it dirty...WOW! is it fast. I'll miss the plush of the MXZ frame from time to time...but the rest of time I'll be grinning ear-to-ear. In regards to the MXZ I can sell the frame bare or with any of the parts listed. I'd keep it but I'd also like a gates SS to ride with the wife.
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			<title>Shredder on "Mooto XZ"</title>
			<link>http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=282#post-13320</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 13:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Shredder</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I'll trade you my YBB frame for your XZ if you want to cancel the order. Just let me know.
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			<title>dentlfly on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dentlfly</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;sorry. was unable to access forum for last several days. changed out lefty carbon fork to a standard rockshox fork; no difference. put lefty back on and locked out ybb; not much difference. shop is now going to change out wheels from enve carbon to an aluminum set. will see. i am considering trying a divide mx frame to see if stiffer. for me there is too much flex in the front end of the frame. maybe a custom frame with stiffer tubes will be the answer.
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			<title>Satellite on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 01:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Satellite</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Ed,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Don't leave us hanging what did you find out and how is your ride now?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Satellite
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			<title>JonC on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
			<link>http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12903</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>JonC</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;dentifly,&#60;br /&#62;
I'm back in the office and talked with Corey here at Moots.  From the sounds of it you, Ben and Corey have worked this out?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Jon@Moots
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			<title>sbsbiker on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
			<link>http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12638</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>sbsbiker</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Dentifly, Jon's on the road back from a Portland,OR demo thus the slow response.
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			<title>dentlfly on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
			<link>http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12629</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2012 13:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dentlfly</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;jon,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;are you there . waiting for a response to my last post. thanks.
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			<title>dentlfly on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dentlfly</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;jon,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;my shop is in charlotte. ben the owner has spent time on phone with cory discussing this issue. build: lefty carbon fork, enve  carbon wheels, sram xo 2 x 10. i weigh 220 lbs and am 5'10&#34;. this is a medium frame. i also have a 29&#34; inseam. running continental race light tires. frame has the curved top tube. so far we have switched to a conventional fork with no difference. after bens chat with cory today we locked out the ybb to see if that makes a difference. cory said that ybb can cause this problem of flexure.  was not able to test today.  we also today put longer stem to get more weight forward. i am wondering if the geometry is off with this stock frame and will always be an issue for me. maybe need custom build. also would the full suspension divide be less susceptible to this front end flex?  thanks for all your feedback in advance. it is a great looking bike; however i don't feel comfortable on it while riding at least 1/2 the time. i use it mainly for commuting on sidewalks, grass and light trails. i have had several neck surgeries in the last year hence the need for rear suspension.  ed
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			<title>JonC on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>JonC</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;dentifly,&#60;br /&#62;
In the current 29er models we have gone to 44mm head tubes, and larger tubing both in the top tube/down tube and also have the added stiffness by running a 30.9 post in the RSL models, which when combined really tighten up the bike.  The 26'' wheel bikes have not gone through those changes as of yet.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;From what you describe above I would say it's a combination of very light parts(wheels)....what else is it built with?..., rider weight and tubing size that are making you feel what you are feeling. How tall are you?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;What shop did you order it through?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Jon@Moots
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			<title>bowtiguy on "Mooto XZ"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bowtiguy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Just orderd a 12' Mooto X YBB to go racing, so the MXZ will be for sale shortly ( got to keep the wife happy, 3 bike self imposed limit).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm going to list it on Ebay and MTBR when I get back into town next week. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'll start by listing the frame, 2012 Fox F29 terralogic 100mm fork ( new this season) and Chris King red headset ( with CK spacers) for $2550 shipped FedEX insured.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;- red outlined decals&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-willing to sell frame only too.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The following components can be added individually or look below for the package deal.....&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Chris King Red Bottom bracket installed ( literally 2 months)...$100&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Moots Ti layback 27.2mm post...$200&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Moots Ti open trail stem ( red decals and front plate)....$225&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-Salsa Flip collar in red ( Original will be included).... $25&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'll sell the entire package shipped/insured via fedex for $2950.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;-=MIke&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#60;a href=&#34;mailto:bowtiguy@comcast.net&#34;&#62;bowtiguy@comcast.net&#60;/a&#62;
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			<title>bowtiguy on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bowtiguy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;wow! I hope this is an isolated case. I've got a new 19&#34; Mooto X YBB on the way, should be here next week. I weigth a tad less at 185. For what its worth, I demo'd a 19&#34; YBB during a local front range demo day and did not notice any flex coming off my 19&#34; MXZ. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;However, I did notice that the steering was a little quicker or snappy. Once I adjusted, it was no big deal. I took the bike up to speed ( big ring...down hill) and found it very stable, even under hard corner ( threshold) braking. It railed corners that I may have been bushwacking if I were on the MXZ.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Maybe get your weight back over the rear wheel a bit more. Less stem length with a layback post.
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			<title>dentlfly on "new moto x ybb flexing of frame"</title>
			<link>http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=8754#post-12519</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 04:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dentlfly</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;just built up a new stock 17&#34; ybb. carbon lefty fork and enve carbon wheels. my concern is how unstable the bike feels. it has a lot of lateral flex from headtube back to most of top tube. it is a very unsettled ride; almost scary. shop tried switching to a conventional fork but no difference. anyone have similar issue. i weigh 215 lbs so also wondering if need stiffer tubing. thanks for any input.
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			<title>bowtiguy on "Mooto XZ"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 16:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bowtiguy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I've got one and love it. had it for over a year. love it so much that I sold all my Ibis Ti 26ers shortly after building up the used frame in april 2011. Including my silk ti and bow ti. My only complaint has been weight. I put it on a diet fall 2011 with I9 enduro/flow wheelset, XTR shifters, RD and casette and some 180/160mm XX brakes. I've got it down to 26.5 lbs with 959 pedals but the guys I'm riding with these days are cranking 20-22 lb carbon hardtail 29ers so I'm thinking about shaving another 2.25 lbs off the bike and going with a 2012 Mooto X Ybb frame.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I run 90 psi on rear shock and 95 psi on my Fox Terralogic 29er fork. I'm 6' and 187 lbs. and it rides like a dream. I lock it out for &#34;most&#34; climbs and toss the switch and hammer downhills faster than I ever have before in my 40 years frame and 20 years of cycling.  I can finally ride areas like the south side of Hall ranch and enjoy them.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'll definately miss the ride on my 4hr+ epic high country rides though.
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			<title>TiBike on "Mooto XZ"</title>
			<link>http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=282#post-1761</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>TiBike</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I know 2 guys that have them and they love them....
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			<title>twklei on "Mooto XZ"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 20:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>twklei</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Does anyone own a Mooto XZ? I tried every message board I can find to get any onfo on this rig. Any feedback would be great. If not oh well, I guess I will be the only person with one.
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