7371 Rider's community and more. en-US Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:54:48 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://moots.com/bbpress/search.php http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-6635 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 16:42:47 +0000 JonC 6635@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>AdriH....</p> <p>Nice....</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-6500 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 18:05:55 +0000 AdriH 6500@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>I ordered a couple of R45 ceramics for my Campa-equipped road bike. Should run sweetly. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-6459 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:07:34 +0000 JonC 6459@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Doc--<br /> Thanks for the info. I've been riding the R45's for almost a year and love the standard bearings....much less drag than previous .....less of the "angry bee" buzz as well....but only when coasting.....which I try to do as much as possible....:)</p> <p>Chris King fan 4 life.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-6421 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:58:13 +0000 Doc Moots 6421@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>I just spoke with the nice fokes at Chris King today. It sounds like someday they will be doing a 135 disc brake r45 hub once the frame mfg are on board. But don't get your hopes up because they said it's no time soon. However, they are finally going to use some of the R45 technology in the ISO hub. Ceramic bearing with less seal drag later this year. This is a really big deal because CK and the Enduro XD-15 are very different than other ceramic bearings. First hand experience has convinced me both are worth the extra coin. Now as for others ceramic, not so much... </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-6399 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:14:07 +0000 AdriH 6399@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>I have done some research and you can use Shimano cassettes in combination with Campa shifters using J-Tek's shiftmate.<br /> <a href="http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htm" rel="nofollow">http://jtekengineering.com/shiftmate.htm</a><br /> So that the ticket for those who run 135mm-width slider dropouts on a Psychlo-X and want to run campa shifters.. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-6090 Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:26:46 +0000 AdriH 6090@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>More hub choices in 135mm yes, but only if you use shimano or sram cassettes. I have yet to find a 135mm hub that supports a campa cassette.<br /> Chris Kings new R45 have a campa body but only in 130mm. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-6068 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:55:22 +0000 JonC 6068@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>AdriH,<br /> It seems that when road or cx hydro discs hit, they will be 135mm spacing. Now, this is not set in stone and component makers have been known to be a tricky bunch, but 135mm spacing makes more sense. Fitting in a disc rotor and keeping the wheel dish in a good range will be key to building strong wheels. </p> <p>If I personally were building up a disc cx wheel, I'd go 135....more hub choices, more even spoke tension, stronger, longer lasting wheel.</p> <p>That's my 2 cents...but if you know me #LONG-LIVE-CANTIS!</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-6060 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:50:08 +0000 AdriH 6060@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Is it difficult or even possible to adapt road-standard 130mm rear wheels to go into a 135 spaced frame?<br /> I have no need for disc wheels in a Psychlo X at the moment but would find it interesting to get one with the slider/disc mount option.<br /> Or do I play it safe and have a rear wheel made up around a 135mm hub? </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3848 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 15:16:03 +0000 JonC 3848@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>ZeroG,<br /> Yes, this year you can order the Psychlo X with the optional 44mm head tube. It does cost more, but will allow you to run the tapered fork.</p> <p>Let me know if you have any other questions.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3846 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 11:50:06 +0000 teamfubar 3846@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>I need to preface this by saying this is NOT a knock on anyone here that has/using the hydraulic adapters for disc brakes, please don't take it as such. While I agree that the 324 adapter, as well as others, are the best options out there for running hydros w/drop bar shifters, I don't get it. Avid's BB7 Road discs work well and obviously work with drop bar levers. The adapters are ugly, bulky, and add unnecessary weight and clutter to the front of a bike for what is really minimal gains in braking. I ran BB7's on my Cinco for quite a while before switching to Juicy Ultimates. Sure, the Ultimates are lighter, although not by much, and there isn't as much "forearm" pump on LONG descents, but that doesn't happen much. I always hear that you have to do maintenance on the BB7's more, changing cables, etc. but I don't think it is more often than having to bleed a hydro.</p> <p>Personally, I'd run the BB7's until someone comes out with a hydro drop bar lever. At the very least, I don't understand why someone hasn't come out with these hydro "adapters" integrated into a stem. I suppose that the writing is on the wall and brake/shifter manufacturers like Shimano and Sram will have something out soon so no need in making a fancy adapter. </p> <p>Sorry about the rant and slightly derailing this thread. Please resume talking about the best options for a disc fork on a Psychlo... </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3845 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 10:27:01 +0000 netanimic 3845@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Really this is the best option for hydros, very simple and the R1 are very very good and light brakes. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3840 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:59:29 +0000 jasonlee 3840@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>My frame is a 55cm. I will try and take some good photos for the gallery soon. Like I said, currently it is setup as a min-29er, but I have an <a href="http://324labs.com/324labs/Home.html">adapter set from 324labs</a> for using any drop bar brake levers/shifters with Formula R1 hydraulic disc brakes. I need to get the R1 brakes, bleed kit, drop bars and then decide on which drop bar shifters I want to use before I switch over. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3806 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:34:01 +0000 netanimic 3806@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Hi jasonlee! What size is your frame? Thanks for the info about cable stops!!! I am waiting for a Dura-Ace hydraulic brakes. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3804 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 18:57:09 +0000 jasonlee 3804@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Here's my current setup on my 2010 PsychloX Disc only (non-RSL just like you ordered). Since I don't have a mountain bike built up currently, this serves as my mini-29er with 35c cross tires.<br /> <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jferrier/5503954704/">link to photo</a></p> <p>I have a WoundUp fork, XTR 3x9 drivetrain, XT hydraulic disc brakes.</p> <p>** NOTE ** One thing that I didn't think about when ordering and am disappointed in is that the cable stops on the bike are for cable only brakes. Until I get some Jagwire adapters that mount in these stops, I have to continue to use zip ties to hold the hydraulic brake hose in its place.</p> <p>IF IT ISN'T TOO LATE - Call Moots and specify that you want the cable braze ons they use on their mountain bikes. You can easily run full rear brake housing with the hydraulic cable stops, but not the other way around.</p> <p>Plan for the future - hydraulic drop bar disc brake will be coming in the next few years directly from the big manufacturers.</p> <p><strong>As for fork options,</strong> your current options for a non-tapered steer tube are:</p> <ul> <li><strong>Carbon</strong> <ul> <li>WoundUp</li> <li>Winwood (heavy)</li> </ul> </li> <li><strong>Steel</strong> <ul> <li>Salsa</li> <li>Dimension</li> </ul> </li> </ul> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3767 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 07:42:48 +0000 ZeroG 3767@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Thanks Jon and Fubar for chimming in. </p> <p>I recently read about Enve maybe releasing a disc specific CX fork soon (<a href="http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/09/03/enve-composites-new-disc-brake-cyclocross-fork-am-dh-rims-more/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/09/03/enve-composites-new-disc-brake-cyclocross-fork-am-dh-rims-more/</a>) and maybe this is something for me to consider as<br /> you might be offering this option? The article mentions that it will only be offered in a tapered steerer which is now an option on your RSL Psychlo-X model but I was wondering if this option also exists for a "normal" Psychlo-X frame or what options exist?</p> <p>Thanks for any input if possible. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3724 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 16:17:53 +0000 JonC 3724@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>ZeroG,<br /> Thanks for the post and welcome to the Moots forum. Ordering your Moots Psychlo X frame with a disc mount is no problem...we've been doing them for years. At this time we are spacing all disc cross bikes to 135 for hub availability sake. For forks, we are not building or having anything built for us at this time that will take a disc up front. There are several nice options out on the market and getting better with time. </p> <p>Options:</p> <p>Wound Up<br /> Ritchey<br /> 3T</p> <p>Keep in mind the Psychlo X is built around a 395mm axle to crown lenght and a 45mm to 47mm offset.</p> <p>We don't make any ti forks road, mountain or cross. They require a much heavier build vs. carbon to achieve the same level of stiffness....carbon is good in some cases.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3685 Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:43:50 +0000 teamfubar 3685@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Unfortunately Moots does not make any forks and they don't include forks with most of their framesets (the RSL road frame is the exception). Check out what Jon from Moots said in this thread on the forum...</p> <p><a href="http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1231#post-3325" rel="nofollow">http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1231#post-3325</a></p> <p>Even their forks that are included with the RSL are made by an outside vendor for Moots to their specs. </p> <p>That being said, there are a lot of fork manufacturers out there that have disc tabs. I would imagine Moots would have a recommendation for a brand that fits their suggested trail numbers. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=1488#post-3684 Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:56:50 +0000 ZeroG 3684@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Long time lurker, first time poster.</p> <p>I have been digging and cannot find the answer to my question so here goes: If I ordered a Moots Psychlo-X with disc brake options, what type of fork do I get? Is there a custom Ti disc brake fork that Moots makes and if so can a picture be provided?</p> <p>Thanks for any assistance. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=70#post-3445 Mon, 12 Sep 2011 00:34:54 +0000 cincytri 3445@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>After a slightly muddy CX practice session today, I think that my tire/rim choices are not ideal for this frame. There is room on both side (no rubbing), but a bit of mud caked on that could be a problem. I'm a newbie to cross, so no real experience to make that conclusion. Again, this is for the 35c Racing Ralph tires and Hed C2 Belgian rims. I'll have a set of Hed Belgium C2 tubies with Challenge Fangos and I think that clearance will be better. I will report back with details. Likely going to keep the RR for bike path riding and get some Challenge 32 clinchers for training. Still loving the bike and looking forward to racing in the upcoming weeks.</p> <p>Let's see the new bikes!! </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1481 Mon, 21 Mar 2011 02:27:46 +0000 lpalandjian 1481@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Jon<br /> Sounds like mystery solved. Tx for update on fork eta. Hard to believe the ride could get better but looking forward to getting my hands on that. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1480 Sun, 20 Mar 2011 02:00:04 +0000 JonC 1480@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Ipalandjian,<br /> Interesting enough,....the only forks we have come across to be slightly oversized is the older Reynolds forks. For some reason they are just a touch bigger than anyone else out there. </p> <p>New Moots forks will be in stock by mid-April in good numbers.</p> <p>Hang tight...the new forks are on the way!</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1471 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:16:06 +0000 tbill 1471@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Ipalandjian,</p> <p>You might also want to check to see of the expander plug has been over-tightended. This could cause the steerer tube to bulge slightly, making it difficult to slide the spacers onto the steerer tube. Your description suggests that this might be the case since you can get the spacers onto the top of the steerer, but then they get stuck. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1469 Sat, 19 Mar 2011 03:05:15 +0000 lpalandjian 1469@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Jon<br /> Temporarily I am using a Reynolds ouzo. Maybe the spacers were cut a touch too tight. If I get around to it, I will follow up with Kassi and send back for inspection. But I wasn't too worried. I hope to be on the new moots fork in a few weeks, then will dial in 1-2 of the new rsl spacers.<br /> Thanks</p> <p>Ps with some warmer spring weather in northeast, I have finally been putting in some real miles on the new frame. It is just a ridiculously excellent bike. The passion grows with each ride! </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1464 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 19:14:41 +0000 JonC 1464@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Ipanlandjian,<br /> What fork are you trying to install them on? </p> <p>They should fit any 1 1/8'' fork. We can exchange them and investigate. Contact Kassi here at Moots and she can get you going with more spacers.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1463 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:31:40 +0000 lpalandjian 1463@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Jon<br /> Perfect. Thank you very much. </p> <p>One more question. It doesn't belong in this series, but thought I would ask here rather than start a new one.<br /> I bought some TI headset spacers a couple months ago. My steerer tube is 1 1/8", however I have found I can not get the spacers on because they are too tight. I can get them onto top portion of steerer tube, but then they are stuck, I can not push/slide them down to sit near headset/head tube. I even tried some grease. Any advice on prep or tricks to try? If not no big deal because I am going to switch forks when new rsl forks come in, and will get the new rsl spacer at that time. so this will be a "moot" question soon. </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1462 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 15:24:32 +0000 JonC 1462@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Ipalandjian,<br /> Go with the reccomended 5-7 Nm...use the high end of the range if experiencing slipping...you should be safe.</p> <p>thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1459 Fri, 18 Mar 2011 04:15:45 +0000 lpalandjian 1459@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>What about adapter-clamp to fix front derailleur to tube. Shimano says to tighten their adapter component to 5-7Nm. Is up to 7Nm safe for the tube? My question is for an RSL road frame. (have experienced some slippage of FD at lower torques). </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1419 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:16:32 +0000 JonC 1419@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>kamkam,<br /> For the welded on binder (road and cross) we want: 55 inch pounds or 6.3 newton-meter.</p> <p>On the removeable clamp style we want: 45 inch pounds or 5.0 Newton-meter.</p> <p>Let me know if you have any other questions. I'll be building a PDF of all torque specs and listing under FAQ's...</p> <p>many thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1418 Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:02:50 +0000 kamkam 1418@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Jon,</p> <p>What about for seat tube binders on the road bikes? </p> http://moots.com/bbpress/topic.php?id=211#post-1384 Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:09:53 +0000 JonC 1384@http://moots.com/bbpress/ <p>Mark,<br /> They are listed under "Tech" for each component. </p> <p>Stems: <a href="http://moots.com/wp-content/uploads/TECHpaper_OpenStem.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://moots.com/wp-content/uploads/TECHpaper_OpenStem.pdf</a></p> <p>Cinch post: <a href="http://moots.com/wp-content/uploads/TECHpaper_CinchPost.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://moots.com/wp-content/uploads/TECHpaper_CinchPost.pdf</a></p> <p>Let me know if you need anything else.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Jon@Moots </p>